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CLIVE BURR INTERVIEW 2011tekijä: Clive Burr päivä: 30. huhtikuuta 2011 kello 2:00


When the drummer CLIVE BURR was ousted from Iron Maiden in 1982, he thought things could not get much worse. Then he was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis and his life turned upside down ...

By LEE MARLOW

He first started in your hands. Of all places, his hands - the tools of their trade. It was just a tingling sensation at first, or anything more serious concern; inconvenience rather than painful. It did not. And instead of worse, grew steadily, much worse. Inferring CLIVE BURR about the tingling in his hands was simple: it was because of the battery. The culprit must be all that he played drums for years.



'Hit them hard,' he had printed on their sticks made to order. "And I always hit," he says. "So I continued. I kept it in the back of my head, I tried not to think about it. "



This was in the late 80s, he thinks. 1988 or maybe 89. A long time after he left Iron Maiden. He had occupied the stool of a half dozen bands from the Maiden.



By 1994, it was so bad that he could no longer ignore. "I was letting things fall," he says. "I could not handle anything right. I could barely hold my drumsticks. " When he could no longer run your fingers between the sticks - the kind of trick he could do with your eyes closed two years earlier - the time had come to consult a doctor.



The diagnosis took months. There were tests and exams, more tests, until it eventually culminated in the office of a physician, a man-faced, with very bad news. Worst impossible. The examinations revealed multiple sclerosis, and a particularly virulent and aggressive variant of the disease, so called EM Initial Aggressive. The life of Mr. Clive Burr was about to change forever.



Today, the man who provided the frenetic, but always distinct and unique rhythmic backbone of the first three albums by Iron Maiden is in a wheelchair. Sometimes just getting out of bed to face a new day is a struggle. "I'm very tired," he says. I can not always do what I want. "



The battery is in his garage in his specially adapted home in Wanstead, east London, which he shares with his partner Mimi, a former catechism teacher who also has MS. "Meeeeeeeeemes," he cries repeatedly throughout our interview. "Where's my Rosie?" [Rosie Lee = tea brand]. "I just shot the battery when my nephews see now," he says. "They seem to like." Clive, now 53 years old, is only until then that it goes today.



In another cluster of boulders is a pile of dishes Paiste damaged, broken in several shows of the tour Beast On The Road in 1982, a sharp reminder, if need be, the mighty drummer he once was. Your days are over as drummer.



On the rare occasions that MS killing, he goes to the DVD player and watch a show of old Maiden. "I like it," he laughs. "I sit there with the MMSE, with your feet up, and then I go back to that pose. I'm smiling throughout the video. We were a good band, you know. "



Before we start talking of Maiden, and how they were good along with Clive, it may be more pertinent to study how it ended. This is something that has been denied by Clive most of the past 30 years. Much has been written about his departure from Maiden, during a grueling tour in the summer of 1982. Most of it, he says firmly, is nonsense.



"I heard the stories - that was because of drugs or booze," he says. "It was nothing like that."

The truth, as is often in cases of heavy metal musical chairs, is a bit nasty, a little more acrimonious. It started with a call. He does not remember where he was when he received the call, he only remembers that he had to go home in London. His father, Ronald, had died suddenly of a heart attack. He was only 57 years.



A U.S. map dotted with shows is ahead of Maiden, but for the moment, it did not matter, he says. "I had to go home." Everyone seemed to agree with that, he recalls. Go home, they said. Stay with your family. Clive flew back home on a Concorde.



Maiden brought the former drummer of Trust, Nicko McBrain, as a replacement for the tour continued, the show could continue. Clive and Nick were friends. No problem. Everything was beautiful. "I knew the Nicko," says Clive. Nice guy. Good drummer. In a number of first shows, Nicko had been characterized by Eddie to scare the audience. "He loved the band, he loved being part of it all. And the rest of us liked him. " Clive was about to discover how much they liked.



Clive then went home, went to the funeral of his father, spent time with his family, and two weeks later, flew back to America to join the Maiden, who was crossing America, opening for Rainbow, Scorpions. 38 Special and Judas Priest. "I came back and could feel that something was not right," recalls Clive. There was a meeting. The atmosphere was tense. There was change in the air, and Clive, still numb by the loss of his father, he could smell it. "We think it's time for a break," they said to Clive. That was it. After the better part of four years, three albums - not just any old disk, either, but the three albums that many of the Maiden fans will tell you that remain the band's best work - and suddenly the dream was over, just when was starting to become reality.



Everyone knows what happened after the Maiden. What happened next with Clive Burr was a case of dust themselves off and start all over again. He was mourning his father. Now he was in mourning for his band and the work with which he had dreamed of since I saw Ian Paice playing "Highway Star" with Deep Purple for the first time. At home in the UK, the rumors were disparate: the drugs were to blame for his dismissal, it was the rum, that Clive enjoyed the beer, sex and rock n 'roll just a little more than the others that he sometimes had to play shows with a bucket next to your battery for when the hangovers were too ... the evils of rock n 'roll were getting in the way of the band, everyone agreed. All except for Clive.



Thirty years later, he says still bothers you to hear it. He was never much to drink. Sure, he drank brandy and Coke - a Curvoisier and a Coke. "My roadie used to get me one before we go onstage," he laughs - but nothing too extreme. No more or less than any one of the band. "We were like school kids in America," he says. "We had never been there before and our eyes opened. There were many parties, and the girls were throwing themselves upon us. We had never experienced anything like that. "



Clive - the guy who had been elected 'Hotshot of the Month' July magazine for teenagers Oh Boy - kicked ass. "Of course I sent. All we have. "And then ended. Clive flew to London again, and thence to Germany with his mother, and stayed in it. "I was very upset for being angry," he says. "There was a period of mourning - I felt for my father and I felt for my band - and then I got up and continued."



Just like that?



"Well then, yes. He had no regret. Life is too short. It's good to clarify the facts, tell my side of the story, "he says," because he is not well known. I think if you're going to fire someone, fire that person immediately after it lost the father is not the best time to do it ... I think they had their reasons. That was it. "



After the Maiden, Clive played with a number of bands in rapid sequence: Graham Bonnet's Alcatrazz (it lasted a week), Stratus, the so-called NWOBHM supergroup Gogmagog, Elxir, Dee Snider's Desperados. None came close to getting what he had achieved with the Maiden. And yet, to Clive, it made no difference. "I just wanted to play. When I came home from Germany after the Maiden, I used to wear my hair in a hat, bring a pair of sunglasses and playing with anyone who wanted me in pubs around London, "he laughs. "I just wanted to play drums."



It was like he was when he was a boy. The Burr lived in an apartment in Manor Park, in the heart of East London. While in school, Clive artisanal built a battery. "Everything we had the house, he was hitting with sticks," recalls his mother Kiara.



When he discovered Ian Paice and Deep Purple, his obsession seemed to take a new dimension. Kiara's family bought his first drum kit for Clive when he was 15. It was both a blessing and a curse. "It was nice to them, but they did not have to hear that," says Kiara. "I used to leave the apartment for fear of the neighbors look on his face because of the noise he was making."



Even for the ears lay Kiara, she could see it was good. Very good. He never had a proper lesson he learned watching other drummers and playing constantly.



Clive came out of the pro Maiden Samson in 1979, replacing Doug Sampson, just when Maiden were about to sign with EMI Records Giant Ferris. It was a pretty big step, he remembers, the rock much in the traditional blues of Samson. Maiden assays were serious, and they had to be. The songs were faster and intrinsic, with many changes of time. Playing drums with this band was no job for beginner. More-and better - shows started coming, and also interested in the band labels. Once the EMI hired Maiden, Clive left his day job as a delivery in town.



The band's success was due almost entirely to the bassist, Steve Harris, Clive says, "Steve was the leader for sure. He wrote the songs, it schedules the shows, he would arrange the tests. He was very focused. He knew where he wanted the thing was. And we went. "



The rhythm section in those first three records could not be meshed. "It was not always so, Clive recalls. "Steve used to say I played the songs very quickly, he was always telling me to slow down. My memory landmark recording 'The Number of the Beast' is Steve telling me to slow down ".



There were raids, he said, but nothing serious, nothing big. "We got along well, and there was much camaraderie." Even after the split, Clive met the Maiden guitarist Adrian Smith and went fishing.



When the band learned of multiple sclerosis Clive, they interfered and helped him as best they could - by playing it. Help them become your life.

"They gave me a car ..." He paused. "Meeeeeeemes, what car is that it?" He yells. "We call them Clivemóvel. It's a Volkswagen Caddy with tinted glass. It's like an American gangster car. They organized concerts to raise money not only for me but for other people with MS. They put a lift on the stairs of our house. Sometimes I climb the stairs looking pros of gold and platinum discs on the wall, ha ha ha. "



Better than that, and what he loves best in everything, when Clive says that Mimi is gone, they remember it. "They say if you need anything, just call, a telephone," she says. "Every time they perform in London, Clive knows that all he has to do is pick up the phone and he has two tickets to the best place. It may not seem like much, but to Clive, it is. In the end, to him, is how its made - who he is and what he did - are being recognized.



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Re: Clive Burr kommentoi eroonsa johtaneita syitä .

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Muistelen joskus Adrian Smithin sanoneen että Cliven potkut ei ollut mitenkään reilu päätös Stevelta, koska ei ne päihteet vieneet Clivea sen enempää kuin muutakaan bändiä. Mutta pitää muistaa että tässä on monta osatekijää taustalla ja takuulla Nicko on ollut ihan tulessa kun on päässyt alkuun tuuraamaan Clivea TNOFTB -turneella ja varmasti myös sitä kautta tehnyt lähtemättömän vaikutuksen Steveen. Pitää muistaa sekin että melko varmasti isän kuolema noihin aikoihin on vienyt Clivelta paljon energiaa, eikä hän välttämättä ole ollut ihan 100% Maidenin asioista kiinnostunut.

Itse diggailen Burrin soitosta ihan helvetisti vaikken rumpaloinnista paljoa tiedäkään, olisin mielellään nähnyt hänet Maidenissa pidempään. Harmi ettei onni kuljettanut häntä vuonna 1983 mihinkään nimekkääseen bändiin kuten vaikka Metallicaan.
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